On the witness stand, Carroll downplayed her friend’s use of the word “scheme” with an immediate caveat that it had no “evil… connotations.”Ĭarroll countered that she initially had no intention of including Trump in her book, What Do We Need Men For?: A Modest Proposal, which included a list of “the most hideous men in my life.” She testified that her decision only came five weeks after starting to write the book in October 2017. Tacopina-who is known for his hostile bravado and hulking frame underneath his closely cut suits-visibly held back his aggression as he interrogated Carroll about the word “scheme.” Noting that she is a longtime author, he asked her to define the word. Two weeks later, Carroll started a cross-country road trip to gather material for an upcoming book in 2019 about nasty men-one that ultimately included a bombshell account of Trump allegedly raping Carroll in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman. “TOTALLY!!! I have something special for you when we meet,” Carroll responded. “As soon as we’re both well enough to scheme, we must do our patriotic duty again.” “This has to stop,” Martin suggested in a Sept. While asking about how Carroll developed her book, which marked the first time she made that startling accusation, Trump’s lead defense attorney pointed out an exchange she had with a close friend, the fellow journalist Carol Martin.
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